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COVID Our losses in these Covid times

alexwalker

Forever Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
First. I want to give my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well, life must go on, I suppose, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deepest condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Similar with loss:

Shared grief is half grief.

Hope this helps some.
 
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nycwalking

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Ourense to Santiago (2019), CF: (2014, 2004, 2002, 2001). On to Fisterra, (2002, 4, 14).
First. I want to my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well life will bo on, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deep condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Same with loss:

Shared loss is half loss.

Hope this helps some.
@alexwalker,

I am so terribly, terribly sorry for your loss.

Vaya con Santiago y Dios.
 

alexwalker

Forever Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC

ranthr

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
C Frances 2005, 2007
Le Puy en Velay -SdC 2009
Via de la Plata 2011
gr 653 from Oloron to Puente la Reina 2012
Gr65 from le Puy to Figeac 2013
Irun to Santander 2013
Porto to SdC 2014
Astorga to SdC 2015
Trist å høre dette, Alex! Tenker at du bringer han med deg i tankene på din neste camino. Håper du sjøl holder deg frisk og unna viruset i Tromsø.❤
 
Camino(s) past & future
First Camino Frances Fall 2020/21 (Planning)
Alex,
Please accept my sincere condolences.

Many of us are feeling anxious and missing normal contact with family. Last month my aunt in Northern Italy passed away from the coronavirus and just 2 weeks ago here in the USA a cousin with the illness passed. For me faith, prayer and good memories has helped.

As you have experienced, nowadays the fate of loved ones with this virus find themselves in a hospital alone without family being able to visit, and without recovery, they die alone. These times are difficult... Be well, stay heathy and remember good memories.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances(2006) Portugues(2013)
San Salvador (2017) Ingles (2019)
@alexwalker, I did not know till now. It is hard to find a word. I knew when this virus started storming through our world that the damage would be deep in the psyche, and more permanent than any temporary hardship. Your trust in the people in the forum will, I hope, bring you some little comfort in the sharing of your loss and grief.
 

FooteK

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP to SdC, 2013; Lourdes to SdC, 2015; ??? to SdC (2020)
@alexwalker, just reading this now. I am so sorry for your loss. Suddenly there is an empty hole in the heart which being there would have helped fill, now it is just an empty hole.
However, let the sincere love from your friends, family, and fellow pilgrims help fill that hole with caring. You have done so much for all of us, we are pleased to have a chance to return the favor.
Abrazos, my friend. 🌈
 

CWBuff

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
in Planning stage: Frances (SJPdP --> SdC) & Finisterre "2021" ... (GOD WILLING!)
Just as so many who posted above, I only found out after reading this thread.
So sorry for your loss 💔😢
Do rejoice in the knowledge that he is at Peace and relive all the good memories.
Do not mourn the passing but rather celebrate his Life
Ultreia!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances Sarria to Santiago March 18 , Camino Frances June 18 Camino Frances May 19 ,May 2020
First. I want to give my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well, life must go on, I suppose, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deepest condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Similar with loss:

Shared grief is half grief.

Hope this helps some.
I am very sorry to hear of your loss .
 

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efdoucette

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2011 Camino Frances
Since 2011 - too many to list
Sorry for your loss Alex. We've never met but I have always enjoyed your posts here, I feel like we are similar in nature, connected somehow. I have lost 2 brothers over the last few years, it hurts like hell, but memories are a real joy.
 

Paladina

old woman of the roads
Camino(s) past & future
CF, primitivo & del norte (2017); VdlP/Sanabres, ingles etc (2018), Mozarabe etc (2019), tbc (2020)
I'm sorry to hear this. Bereavement is always difficult to bear, all the more so in these circumstances. I send you my best wishes.
 

IngridF

Intrepid Peregrina
Camino(s) past & future
2012, 2015 ,2017, 2019
First. I want to give my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well, life must go on, I suppose, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deepest condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Similar with loss:

Shared grief is half grief.

Hope this helps some.
I am so sorry for your loss. ((((💖))))
 

Pia Valbak Schmidt

Pilgrim, DK, Caminos 2007,09,11,12,13,14.15,16,18
Camino(s) past & future
2007,2009,2011,2012,2013,2014.2015,2016,2018. Hospitalera 2012,2013,2014,2016,2017
First. I want to give my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well, life must go on, I suppose, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deepest condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Similar with loss:

Shared grief is half grief.

Hope this helps some.
I am so sorry to read this. I send with my thoughts my sincere condolences to you and your family. 🍀 🍃
 
Camino(s) past & future
St Jean to Santiago (2012, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2019)
Via Francigena (2018); Via Podiensis (4-6, 2020)
First. I want to give my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well, life must go on, I suppose, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deepest condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Similar with loss:

Shared grief is half grief.

Hope this helps some.
First. I want to give my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well, life must go on, I suppose, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deepest condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Similar with loss:

Shared grief is half grief.

Hope this helps some.
Oh Alex, I'm so very sorry.
What a crazy awful time for this loss!
I still have your signed compostela commemorating my lost sister (from our volunteer days at the Santiago convent).
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino de Santiago, St Jean to Santuago, 2015
Camino Portuguese, 2018
Sending loving thoughts and wishes that you will find some comfort from us here. I lost my younger sister 3 years ago. The pain is less now but there is still sadness. Remembering the many joyous times we had helps. As does this Camino family! Blessings to all.
 

Holly West

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances
First. I want to give my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well, life must go on, I suppose, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deepest condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Similar with loss:

Shared grief is half grief.

Hope this helps some.
I am so sorry. Thinking of you and your family.
 

natefaith

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Sarria-Santiago (2009)
León-Ponferrada (2014)
Camino Inglés (2017)
Alex,
Please accept my sincere condolences.

Many of us are feeling anxious and missing normal contact with family. Last month my aunt in Northern Italy passed away from the coronavirus and just 2 weeks ago here in the USA a cousin with the illness passed. For me faith, prayer and good memories has helped.

As you have experienced, nowadays the fate of loved ones with this virus find themselves in a hospital alone without family being able to visit, and without recovery, they die alone. These times are difficult... Be well, stay heathy and remember good memories.
Ernie,
You have experienced profound losses as well recently. So sorry to hear about your aunt and cousin, especially as you couldn't be with them :( . Tough times. Blessings and peace to all your family.
Faith
 

alexwalker

Forever Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
Oh Alex, I'm so very sorry.
What a crazy awful time for this loss!
I still have your signed compostela commemorating my lost sister (from our volunteer days at the Santiago convent).
Thank you so much, amiga peregrina. How different the world is these days from the joyful days we shared as eager and dedicated volunteers, living together and sharing meals etc. less than a year ago at the Santa Clara convent while working in the Pilgrims Office in Santiago, trying to do our best for all pilgrims, new and experienced, upon their arrival to the Pilgrims Office/us, at the end of their walk. The memories of our common work there still bring me joy. How life can turn in a blink...

I am so happy I could give you an In vicario pro on your Compostela for your late sister, by the authority given to me by the Office, as one of the clerks there. I hope it has comforted you a lot, amiga peregrina.

Unfortunately/tragically, when the Camino returns, I believe there will be a need for many In vicario pros...
 
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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2005,2008,2010,2015.camino Portuguese 2007 .primativo2012.camino Norte 2009.sjpdp to finisterre and muxia 2007. Le Puy to jpdp 2006. Via francigena vercelli to Lucca 2014. Lucca to Rome 2016.
First. I want to give my thanks to all of you who has PM'ed me after I lost my older brother in a foreign land, unable to see him or participate in any kind of final ceremony, to this terrible virus one week ago. I have deeply appreciated your words, since it is coming from my own kind: Pilgrims.

Personally, I switch between numbness, sorrow, and tears, but also fond memories, which helps me some. Well, life must go on, I suppose, and maybe someday in the future I'll get a Compostela In vicario pro (in absence of) for him in Santiago.

Some of you have also experienced similar loss: I send my deepest condolences to you all.

Also, sharing your loss, seeking comfort from compassionate fellow beings, is important. Remember when you found new friends on the Camino (or elsewhere):

Shared joy is double joy.

Similar with loss:

Shared grief is half grief.

Hope this helps some.
Hello Alex,
I hardly know what to say to you in your grief and sorrow
To lose a beloved brother is hard enough, but to lose him in a foreign land where you cannot even grieve at the graveside must be for you, unimaginable pain...both psychological pain and indeed physical pain in your heart
I am so so sorry for your loss
Annette
 

alexwalker

Forever Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
Hello Alex,
I hardly know what to say to you in your grief and sorrow
To lose a beloved brother is hard enough, but to lose him in a foreign land where you cannot even grieve at the graveside must be for you, unimaginable pain...both psychological pain and indeed physical pain in your heart
Thank you so much for your kind compassion. Highly appreciated. It is unfathomable, surreal, really. But I am not alone, unfortunately. I wish I was.

Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. (Albert Einstein)

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The foreign land was England (Bedford), while i am stuck in Arctic Norway.
 
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alexwalker

Forever Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
Do rejoice in the knowledge that he is at Peace and relive all the good memories. Do not mourn the passing but rather celebrate his Life
Ultreia!
Wise words, thank you. Worth living by. It is a form of easing the now.
 

Bodi

For this breath, I am present.
Camino(s) past & future
SJPP to Najera Sept. 2017; Najera to Astorga Oct. 2018; SJPP to Pamplona May 2019
I'm very sorry to hear of your loss, Alex. It's such a difficult time to lose someone, especially in a different country with no travel possible.
My husband's aunt passed last week and the family held a celebration of her life by Zoom. It was heartfelt and poignant, but not the same as in person.
Your brother was obviously an important person in your life; I wish you peace as you continue life's journey without him.
Blessings to you, peregrino.
 

susanawee

susanawee
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances-(2013/14/18
Camino Salvado Perth -(2015)
West Highland Way (2016)
Lyon France 2017
I send my thoughts to you Alex along with all those of other group members here...to Everything there is a Season....please take comfort in the words of so many of our fellow pilgrims, peregrinos and perigrinas. Susanawee
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
I'm so sorry, Alex. I find myself without words, but offer heartfelt condolences. May he be at peace. I hope that soon you will be able to walk into Santiago for him. Take care, peregrino.
 

nidarosa

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Inglés 2009+2017, Francés 2012+2018, Astorga-Santiago repeatedly
Så fryktelig trist å høre, Alex. Det er plutselig veldig langt mellom England og Norge - jeg bor her og har familien der. Tanken på å ikke kunne være til stede er vond, så jeg føler med deg. Hold deg fast i minnene.

Stay safe and well, peregrinos. Until we walk again.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Cam Frances SJPDP to Santiago ('17): Finisterre ('17); Muxia ('17): Camino Portuguese ('19)
Alex, though I may be late in sending my condolences they are no less heartfelt. May the wonderful memories shared with your brother sustain you. Warm embrace to you and yours.
 

annakappa

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Part frances jun 07/rest frances may- jun 2008/Frances sept-oct 2009/ Sanabres Oct 2010/Frances sept-oct 2011/Aragones Sept-Oct 2012. Hospitalero Sept 2010, Amiga in Pilgrim's Office Oct 2013. Part Primitivo Oct 2013. Portugues from Porto June 2015.
I’m sorry for your loss, Alex. My sincere condolences. I lost my Pilgrim husband Adriaan ( fraluchi on the forum) just one year ago. I am only now slowly coming to accept his passing. It’s difficult and heartbreaking to be far away, with no possibility to travel and, worse, I think, no final goodbye. I cannot imagine not being able to have a wake, funeral and finally the beautiful songs sung for him at his graveside.
 

alexwalker

Forever Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
I’m sorry for your loss, Alex. My sincere condolences. I lost my Pilgrim husband Adriaan ( fraluchi on the forum) just one year ago. I am only now slowly coming to accept his passing. It’s difficult and heartbreaking to be far away, with no possibility to travel and, worse, I think, no final goodbye. I cannot imagine not being able to have a wake, funeral and finally the beautiful songs sung for him at his graveside.
My deep condolances, Annakappa.

His English wife has decided to put his ashes to sea outside the coast of England, ignoring the wishes of me and his 3 children in Norway to have him returned home to Norway, as he wished, or us all coming to England at a later time and participate. She'll handle him alone, for some reason unknown to any of our family.

We live in hard times, indeed.
 
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VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
Sadness on top of sadness. I'm sorry Alex — that sounds really difficult. Take good care...
 

alexwalker

Forever Pilgrim
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
Hold your memories dear, sending many many hugs to you and your family. Take the time that you need to heal. Blessings
👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨 I try. Some are worse than me. (I keep thinking of people in even worse situations, and send my thoughts that way)
 
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JennyH94

Pilgrim in progress
Camino(s) past & future
CF - sections and whole (2012-2019) and part VF (2017)
My condolences to you and your family, Alex. Such a sad time for you all.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and all your loved ones.
 


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