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Or, in the Pyrenees, eight hours from now!I wouldn’t put much stock in a weather forecast eight days from now.
That is a tough call to make because the weather very well could change drastically by then and it will be a clear and beautiful day...or maybe not. If you really want to start in St Jean there's always the Valcarlos route when the Napoleon is closed. I have walked both. They're both nice and both have pluses and minuses, but still good.Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
SJPP any time it's physically possible, if only for the experience. You may be lucky with the views; conditions change rapidly. Take care, however, with the direction markers.Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
No one said being a pilgrim was easy or comfortable!Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
PamplonaNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
One of the many questions you will be asked by fellow hikers is “Where did you start”. You will end up regretting not starting in SJPDP.Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
I started from St Jean 1st April in dreadful weather (snow) so Valcarlos route and 8 hours hard but stunningly beautiful walking up to Roncesvalles. It was a baptism of fire for day 1 of my first Camino but I wouldn’t change a moment of it! The special atmosphere of St Jean, my ‘family’ of walkers who battled up the hill, the warm welcome at the top - for me I would say St Jean every time, weather good or bad.Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
Yes, I agree with thisOne of the many questions you will be asked by fellow hikers is “Where did you start”. You will end up regretting not starting in SJPDP.
I say don’t miss going over the Pyrenees. I’ve done it twice…once sunny and stunning, once with fog and rain….both amazing experiences. It was the highlight of the entire walk.Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
Roncesvalles!Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
SJPP!!!!!Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
If you want to start from SJPdP, start from there. If it is raining/snowing take the Val Carlos route.Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
If from SJPP , stop in Orisson for the night and have your pack sent and also the next day to RoncesvallesNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
A male volunteer at the Camino office in St. Jean assured me with great authority that I could not walk the Napoleon route on my chosen start date because there would be stormy, freezing weather that day. Later, I talked to another, different volunteer who checked the weather report on the spot and told me that the chosen day would be fine, with sunny skies and comfortable temperatures. She was right, and my hike across the Pyrenees was truly memorable. Lesson learned, check multiple sources for the latest reliable information on your route.Or, in the Pyrenees, eight hours from now!
In 2003 I sought advice from the charming lady that ran the Municipal what she thought the weather would be like. She looked up and declared that there would be light showers but the wind would soon blow it all away.
I got to the junction and decided on Valcarlos.
Torrential rain all day, everybody was soaked to the skin, nearly turned back at least 3 times!
Next Camino was out of Pamplona!
SJPP only because it starts from there... I would not worry about the weather as there is a bigger climb out of Pamplona coming your way and if its raining there , you be better of starting from EstellaNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
SJPDPNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
It seems to me, depending on time you have available and your fitness level, you have some great options. Besides walking the Napoleon Route from SJPP or starting from Pamplona, you also have the option of walking the Valcarlos Route from SJPP, which is also great.Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
Not to be overly sensitive but there are plenty of people over 60 -including me- who walked from SJPDP and had a wonderful time! And I saw lots of people under 60 who struggled. I would not have wanted to miss the Pyrenees nor the night in Orrison.Pamplona or Roncevailles if over 60 or have knee or ankle challenges.
SJPP only because it starts from there - does it though?SJPP only because it starts from there... I would not worry about the weather as there is a bigger climb out of Pamplona coming your way and if its raining there , you be better of starting from Estella
I walked through from Le Puy to Pamplona one year, then on to Muxia from Pamplona two years later. First trip, I had a rest day at St Jean, and although the weather was misty, enjoyed a day walk up to the plateau, but could see nil! Next day walked the valley route and greatly enjoyed it, but watch out for cyclists and motorcyclists leaning hard as they cut the corners…Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
PamplonaNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
SJPdPNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
Not reallySJPP only because it starts from there.
Not to be overly sensitive but there are plenty of people over 60 -including me- who walked from SJPDP and had a wonderful time! And I saw lots of people under 60 who struggled. I would not have wanted to miss the Pyrenees nor the night in Orrison.
Because of transportation issues. It's pretty easy to get a flight, train or bus to Pamplona.Why has Pamplona risen to become a new starting point? because of Hemingway? Running of the bulls at San Fermines?
While I’m not there, In 2012 for my first Camino I said constantly “ the 60 year olds are the cool kids on the Camino”.Not to be overly sensitive but there are plenty of people over 60 -including me- who walked from SJPDP and had a wonderful time! And I saw lots of people under 60 who struggled. I would not have wanted to miss the Pyrenees nor the night in Orrison.
Hook 'em Horns Be sure to stop in El Acebo (after Cruz de Fero) at the guesthouseNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
Roncesvalles SpainNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
My advise is to go to SJPP and see , the weather is hard to predict and you just need a 12 hr window of fair weather . You could stay over a day if it cleared for the next day . The beginning there you will meet many people starting the same way and will see these people off and on for the entire trip . Once in Pomplona people spread out and is different . The thrill of the Pyrenees challenge and the views are worth the exhaustion. I have crossed there 5 times and it rained , sleeved and shone hot , but I wouldn't miss itNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
You have one interesting idea: who said the five courses meal has to start with appetizers, dig right into the main course.This is a really helpful thread thank you! I am starting in a couple of weeks and reading this I've decided to start from Pamplona. Then if I have time at the end I will return to walk SJPP to Pamplona. Since I am flying in and out of Bilbao I will have to travel back over to the Basque country when I finish anyway. I will be stronger and hopefully it will likely be better weather by then. This seems win win!
Hook ‘‘em Horns! I definitely will. Perhaps I will bring something for him.Hook 'em Horns Be sure to stop in El Acebo (after Cruz de Fero) at the guesthouse
Casa Rural La Rosa del Agua
When I was there in October a fellow longhorn was taking over this Casa Rural, from an Aggie no less.
SJPPNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
Roncesvalles, because it's easy going afterwards. If you choose Pamplona to avoid a climb as a start day, you're in trouble. It's a really hard and unending climb to Alto del Perdón (albeit the view is fabulous) but the worst is the unending and risky downhill in those huge rocks right afterwards.
So if you start from Roncesvalles IN season (out of season, it's just about the worst lodging imaginable with obnoxious staff), by the time you get to Pamplona, your body and ankles (and mind) will be acquainted with sudden changes in terrain. Get a cab or hitchhike (from the big shopping center outside SJPDP) to Roncesvalles if you've taken the train to SJPDP.
And DO use any point-to-point luggage carrying service. Purists and sado-masochists, get a (better) life. LOL.
I travel light. My backpack and all the content weight in at 8.4lbs, adding another 4.6lbs for everything I will wear, I will carry a total of 13.0lbs. The luggage carrying services folks will probably laugh at me.Roncesvalles, because it's easy going afterwards. If you choose Pamplona to avoid a climb as a start day, you're in trouble. It's a really hard and unending climb to Alto del Perdón (albeit the view is fabulous) but the worst is the unending and risky downhill in those huge rocks right afterwards.
So if you start from Roncesvalles IN season (out of season, it's just about the worst lodging imaginable with obnoxious staff), by the time you get to Pamplona, your body and ankles (and mind) will be acquainted with sudden changes in terrain. Get a cab or hitchhike (from the big shopping center outside SJPDP) to Roncesvalles if you've taken the train to SJPDP.
And DO use any point-to-point luggage carrying service. Purists and sado-masochists, get a (better) life. LOL.
Likewise, I only has exactly 30 days. Talking away 4 days for travelling, I have only 26 days to make the distance. I think I can make it from SJPP, but it won't be a stroll in the park. I will see how the plan work out.I started 3 times in Pamplona and 1 time in sjpdp . The times I started in Pamplona were due to limited time. If I had plenty days to walk the Frances, I would start in SJPDP. So for me it's not weather related but time relatedEnjoy
I have not read any of the above. I was a total rookie (58 years old and had never walked a step more than was necessary), began in Pamplona, it took us 29 days without rest days, but easily managed with an average of 25km per day. By the fourth week, due to circumstances - ie hordes - not hoards!!! - of week long peregrinos - we advanced, thanks to accumulated stamina, thus saving one day from our plan, and so, hah! Arrival, safe and sound in Santiago de Compostela. Buen camino...Likewise, I only has exactly 30 days. Talking away 4 days for travelling, I have only 26 days to make the distance. I think I can make it from SJPP, but it won't be a stroll in the park. I will see how the plan work out.
Buen Camino.
SJPDPNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
Dear NobleHiker,Likewise, I only has exactly 30 days. Talking away 4 days for travelling, I have only 26 days to make the distance. I think I can make it from SJPP, but it won't be a stroll in the park. I will see how the plan work out.
Buen Camino.
I have not intended to skip any part. Just plan to walk more hours each day. 35-40 km a day.All the discussion and 'voting' becomes irrelevant with this new information !?
26 days is way to short to enjoy your walk
Skip some distance.... Start Logrono, Burgos?
Good luck
Bien Camino
SJPP. AlwaysNext week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
I agree. Done twice..once foggy and drizzly and once clear and stunning. Best part of Camino for me.I have walked the Napoleon route twice, once in rain and low cloud and once in sunshine. It's a hike I will remember all my life. Can't say the same for the walk from Pamplona to Puente la Reina!
I walked with a friend who turned 80 at the top of the Pyrenees. Changed his life!Not to be overly sensitive but there are plenty of people over 60 -including me- who walked from SJPDP and had a wonderful time! And I saw lots of people under 60 who struggled. I would not have wanted to miss the Pyrenees nor the night in Orrison.
Orisson and the Pyrenees. Magical experiencesNot to be overly sensitive but there are plenty of people over 60 -including me- who walked from SJPDP and had a wonderful time! And I saw lots of people under 60 who struggled. I would not have wanted to miss the Pyrenees nor the night in Orrison.
You can just wait a day , every body needs a good rest before the climb. st Jean is the traditional beginning. It’s tough but worth it . Later on when pilgrim cut over a paella they ask where you started , you will be “top drawer”Next week, I will be walking the French for the first time. I want to start in SJPP because I want to see the view on the Pyrenees. However, weather forecast calls for rain on that day (Saturday). I am now wondering if I should just start in Pamplona.
Just for fun, I want to poll all walkers: SJPP or Pamplona?
'top drawer'You can just wait a day , every body needs a good rest before the climb. st Jean is the traditional beginning. It’s tough but worth it . Later on when pilgrim cut over a paella they ask where you started , you will be “top drawer”
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