San Anton albergue (Castrojeriz) closes till further notice

[Bradypus]

The group running the albergue in the ruins of the San Anton monastery near Castrojeriz have announced that the albergue and the ruins will be closed from 1 May until the ruins have been made safe. An indefinite period. Thanks to Paul Garland for pointing out the news.

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[CWBuff]

A Shame but as long as they dont close the unsafe ruins.....

 

[Bradypus]

A Shame but as long as they dont close the unsafe ruins.....

My reading of the notice is that the whole complex is being closed - albergue and ruins.

 

[J Willhaus]

The group running the albergue in the ruins of the San Anton monastery near Castrojeriz have announced that the albergue and the ruins will be closed from 1 May until the ruins have been made safe. An indefinite period. Thanks to Paul Garland for pointing out the news.

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Thank you for posting. Special place. Hope they are able to make it safe again someday soon.

 

[J Willhaus]

My reading of the notice is that the whole complex is being closed - albergue and ruins.

Hmnn...I think the secondary road runs right through there so guess they will have to build a detour somehow.

 

[CWBuff]

Like I said - a shame. Some of my friends were really looking forward the visit (especially since I told them of the place)
Well... lets hope that Camino will Provide and the 'further notice' wont be too long in forthcoming!

 

[jefferyonthecamino]

that's too bad, i was there roughly a week ago and the albergue and the ruins were open.

 

[Saint Mike II]

Hmnn...I think the secondary road runs right through there so guess they will have to build a detour somehow.

My memories are similar - that is the main road from Hontanas to Castrojeriz so I doubt " it" will be closed. Any further update Brad?? Cheers

 

[Bradypus]

My memories are similar - that is the main road from Hontanas to Castrojeriz so I doubt " it" will be closed. Any further update Brad?? Cheers

Part of the text is an argument for stopping or limiting traffic through the arches. As I understand it the closure will not prevent people walking on the road but will stop them entering the enclosed areas of the ruins and the albergue. The section of the text through Google Translate:

 

[VNwalking]

A while ago there was a thread here about a bus (?) that collided with the archway. Perhaps there was some deeper structural damage that now needs repair?

 

[davejsy]

What a shame for this most magical place, which was made more beautiful by the very fact it is just so basic and rustic. I hope it does not become a place where there is more metal girders propping everything up for health and safety reasons as that would really undermine the charm of this special place.

It really does seem from the article that the problem is the traffic under the archway and obviously right next to the ruins. It's no surprise that heavy lorries and buses are causing such problems, and diverting the road for vehicles is really the only practical solution.

 

[Kathor1]

This article (see below) from January 2022 has further information about the issues of the structure of the San Antón buildings near Castrojeriz and about a long-standing request to the regional authorities to have the public road changed so that heavy traffic such as lorries, cars, tractors and school buses no longer pass through the arch; this would be possible even if it requires some expropriation of land, according to the article.

Some repair work and consolidation work was done in 2021/2022 following an accident when a random loose stone fell on a school bus, luckily without hurting the passengers in the bus.

The site with the San Antón building was privately owned for a long time by a local farmer (?) and, since a few years ago, it is now owned by a non-profit organisation.

Proponen el desvío de la carretera para preservar el arco jacobeo de San Antón (Castrojeriz, Burgos)

La empresa que ha ejecutado los trabajos de consolidación de las ruinas del convento de San Antón tras caer una piedra sobre el autobús escolar plantea otras cuatro intervenciones para proteger este patrimonio cultural burgalés

www.diariodeburgos.es

 

[VNwalking]

The site with the San Antón building was privately owned for a long time by a local farmer (?) and, since a few years ago, it is now owned by a non-profit organisation.

Ah. A big change. Making many things possible.

 

[Kathor1]

Below is the link to the website of the foundation that owns San Antón. Background, history of the pilgrim albergue, and bank account numbers for donations for maintenance of the pilgrim albergue and for consolidation, restoration and maintenance of the ruins.

The pilgrim albergue exists since 2002.

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Fundación San Antón PRESENTACIÓN Todo comenzó a mi regreso de la peregrinación que hice a Roma andando, el año 2000. Había decidido «comprometerme con el Camino de Santiago» y la forma de hacerlo era crear un albergue para los peregrinos, en el camino francés. Me reuní con Pablo Arribas Briones...

fundacionsananton.org

 

[kelleymac]

Is there a site like go fund me where I can donate? If the grant situation is like the one in the US, they may need and want matching funds.

 

[davejsy]

I don't think it's immediately a case of donations to the order, but more the need for the regional council to step in to divert the road.

However, as per the post above yours, there are details for you to donate on their website if you wish. But I don't think there is a matched giving scheme as such in Spain.

 

[Flog]

I remember noticing some substantial structural layout changes were made between my stays in 2016 and 2023, I don't know or remember exactly... some demolition, the layout of part of the perimeter walls, the relocation of the entrance etc? I wonder if any of it contributed to the overall instability that they're concerned about now, or is the opposite case, was it done to stabilise the structure?

 

[Roland49]

As far as I read it is protected under several acts.
So it's part of the job of the local government with the help of funds of the central government and the EU to secure the building and to built security rails to prevent injuring passing pilgrims.

Time will tell.

 

[Kathor1]

So it's part of the job of the local government with the help of funds of the central government and the EU to secure the building and to built security rails to prevent injuring passing pilgrims.

Are you certain of this? My uninformed understanding, based on reading a few articles about it, is that it is the fact that it is private property which makes obtaining public funds more difficult.

For example:

La inversión estatal de 800.000 euros en San Antón (Castrojeriz) se frustra por ser privado

El Ministerio de Turismo incluyó la consolidación de las ruinas del convento en el Plan Nacional Xacobeo. Ahora, se trabaja en revertir esa partida en actuaciones municipales, como la antigua muralla y la calle Real

www.diariodeburgos.es

According to this, there was excitement and great expectations when it became known that the administration would invest €800,000 for measures to consolidate and maintain the ruins of the convent of San Antón in Castrojeriz in the context of a Plan Nacional Turístico Xacobeo 2021-2022. Shortly afterwards, the disappointment was equally great when it turned out that they would not get a cent because al tratarse de un inmueble de propiedad privada, mientras que las ayudas concedidas por el Estado dentro de ese programa están destinadas a actuaciones al patrimonio de titularidad pública - this kind of public money was only for publicly owned patrimony and not for privately owned property.

It seems that it is not even specifically protected (as a site in its own right):

Exigen intervención en el convento San Antón de Castrojeriz, emblema del Camino de Santiago en Burgos - Camino de Santiago

La Fundación San Antón exige a la Junta ayuda para restaurar el convento, en Castrojeriz, tras 14 años sin preocuparse de uno de los monumentos emblema del Camino Francés El […]

www.alberguescaminosantiago.com

 

[Roland49]

According to this, there was excitement and great expectations when it became known that the administration would invest €800,000 for measures to consolidate and maintain the ruins of the convent of San Antón in Castrojeriz in the context of a Plan Nacional Turístico Xacobeo 2021-2022. Shortly afterwards, the disappointment was equally great when it turned out that they would not get a cent because al tratarse de un inmueble de propiedad privada, mientras que las ayudas concedidas por el Estado dentro de ese programa están destinadas a actuaciones al patrimonio de titularidad pública - this kind of public money was only for publicly owned patrimony and not for privately owned property.

Sometimes it needs a little push into the right direction. The closing could be the best they can do to force action. Hope so.
That landmark should be saved under all circumstances!

 

[Gerard Griffin]

What luck to have stayed in this magical place two nights ago. One of the best albergues on the Camino and therefore one of the best places anywhere on earth.

Closures are becoming a big problem. To my knowledge Emmaus in Burgos, Luz de Fromista and now San Anton are closed sine die. There are probably more I don't know about

If it wasn't for the Trojan work of hospitaleros the associations and albergue organisers like Rebekah Scott things would be even worse. Why is it always the best that go?

 

[VNwalking]

If it wasn't for the Trojan work of hospitaleros the associations and albergue organisers like Rebekah Scott things would be even worse. Why is it always the best that go?

Money?
Commercial interests?
The tidal wave of 21st C pilgrims using suitcase transfer and wanting plush reservable lodgings with wifi?
I don't know.

But in this specific case, it sounds like it's just a crumbling ruin that badly needs to be stabilized.

(I hear and echo your crie de coeur. The posts here on the Forum recently have been depressing. But time only goes in one direction and we have to roll with it.)

 

[J Willhaus]

Don't dispair, there is still the quiet undercurrent of traditional albergues for traditional pilgrims out here. There are still some traditional hospitality albergues out there and just this year a few were added to the list of albergues where we volunteer. It is just a different way of doing the Camino that some of us really treasure and others of us will never really know or understand. Before Hontannas there is San Bol (looks like they do take reservations now) and further past Castrojerez San Nicolas and a number a of other wonderful places (private and municipal) all along the meseta. I am sad about San Anton, but we don't want to "love it to death" with use if it needs repairs.

 

[Gerard Griffin]

According to the hospitaleros a stone fell from the arch onto the roof of a bus. Shame to close the whole place down, but that's local bureaucracy, no friends at heart of donativo hostels in any case. But there will always be such places, they are the Camino imo.

 

[WayWalker]

I spent some time there in 2013 although not overnight. My thoughts even then were that even though it is a lovely place, it IS a crumbling ruin. It was a little disconcerting at the time. A piece fell on a bus? Good thing it wasn't a pilgrim!!!

 

[CWBuff]

If the road cannot be completely re-routied, IMHO they should "re-work" it in such way that right before the said arch it becomes a reasonably sharp S-curve. anything over say 25km/h obviously would be a suicide to begin with

 

[Gerard Griffin]

I think the road should be re-routed away from the arch and the monastery. The pilgrims can take their chances, and if the don't fancy it there are excellent albergues in Casterojeriz. Personally I can think of worse places and ways to go than by a falling stone in San Anton.

 

[VNwalking]

Personally I can think of worse places and ways to go than by a falling stone in San Anton.

Ditto. Many far worse ways.

 

[KDub]

that's too bad, i was there roughly a week ago and the albergue and the ruins were open.

Me too… it was open and I am glad to have seen it. It was closed when I went through back in October 2019.

 

[jungleboy]

Here is the bus thread:

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/piece-of-san-anton-arch-falls-on-school-bus.72337/

 

[Kathor1]

Here is the bus thread:

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/piece-of-san-anton-arch-falls-on-school-bus.72337/

Thank you for the link, @jungleboy. The thread has not only information about the accident with the school bus/van but also about renovation work during the last few decades and lack thereof. And I had remembered it correctly:

“Surprisingly for a Camino landmark, San Anton was never listed as a Bien Interesa Cultural (BIC), a historic monument -- so it doesn't enjoy special protections under national or regional patrimony law.”​

 

[dougfitz]

Is there a site like go fund me where I can donate? If the grant situation is like the one in the US, they may need and want matching funds.

This is an issue for me too. From Australia, my bank will not transfer smaller amounts, and unless there is another method available to make smaller donations, I won't.

I have emailed Ovidio Campo, the President of the Fundación San Antón, asking if they are considering establishing other fundraising avenues. We'll see.

 

[Aptrail]

I LOVE San Antón! I have stayed there as a pilgrim and was a hospitalero last summer and had hoped to be there this summer. I understand the reasoning and think that Ovidio, while making what must have been a hard decision, is doing the right thing. He must be heartbroken. I am hoping that we can help out. I also hope that there could be significant funding from Spanish sources. While there as a hospi I frequently had buses of people stopping by to see and learn about San Antón, it's history, etc. It is a magical place!

 

[GaTeach]

one of my favorite days in 2017 was drinking cafe con leche with Angel in the cafe there

 

[Bradypus]

An article posted on a Facebook group today. It seems that helmets are being provided for the 30m walk underneath the arches at San Anton. My cynical side thinks that is probably more for publicity purposes than strictly practical ones.

De genuino albergue en el Camino a obligatorio paso con casco protector para peregrinos - Viajar y Mucho Más

Las singulares ruinas de San Antón, en Castrojeriz (Burgos), 'aguardan la caridad' institucional que los monjes antonianos han profesado durante siglos El próximo 7 de julio se cumplirían 22 años de la apertura de las ruinas del convento de San Antón al público y al alojamiento de peregrinos en...

viajarymuchomas.com

 

[Kathor1]

My cynical side thinks that is probably more for publicity purposes than strictly practical ones.

My rational side thinks that the photo is a gimmick and the headline is attention-seeking.

The arch had been subject to consolidation work by a specialised company when a piece of masonry hit a school van that was driving through the arch at the same time. Nothing of this sort of repair work was done for the walls inside the perimeter (lack of funds), and that is the area that is now closed to the public. The sign on the right where pedestrians walk through the arch merely says: Danger, Rockfall hazard. It is a standard road sign and has been there for a while.

The sign that says "Use of hard hats obligatory" is new and refers to the area inside and to the side of the arch. It is now closed off to the public and peregrin@s can't walk there at all.

 

[Kathor1]

It is a standard road sign and has been there for a while.

I was looking for a photo that showed this when I noticed that some embellishment work or other had been done to the site a year ago or so. But that is aesthetics and not structural.

 

[CA_Pilgrim]

The group running the albergue in the ruins of the San Anton monastery near Castrojeriz have announced that the albergue and the ruins will be closed from 1 May until the ruins have been made safe. An indefinite period. Thanks to Paul Garland for pointing out the news.

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I heard this news from a friend on the Camino now. She was one of the last pilgrims allowed to stay there. It's sad to see it close.

 

[Vacajoe]

It’s not the same as being open as an albergue, BUT there is a donativo stand being operated at the site currently. It’s off to the side of the roadway and in what was the entryway to the accommodation. It allows pilgrims to still see inside the ruins without getting into the danger zone.

 

[Margaret Butterworth]

<<<< That's me on my first Camino on 02/05/2014.

 

[paddington]

Update !
I walked by today and they opened back up on Wednesday and anticipate staying open !

 

[davejsy]

Update !
I walked by today and they opened back up on Wednesday and anticipate staying open !

Open as an Albergue - or just drinks/snacks and grounds?

 

[paddington]

Open as an Albergue - or just drinks/snacks and grounds?

Open as an albergue ! I double checked as I knew I would post the update if they were in fact back open as an albergue

 

[J Willhaus]

Good news!

 

[Kiwi-family]

Looks like I was three days too early

 

[davejsy]

It does make you wonder though how it is suddenly safe again!

 

[Gerard Griffin]

A Camino without San Anton? Forget about it. SA is the essence of the Camino.