- Time of past OR future Camino
- First one in 2005 from Moissac, France.
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Spot on about the tea - almost worth taking your own mug!Hi, I love the Camino, especially where it throngs with pilgrims, I like the evening tribalness of it all and the close interaction, balanced with long periods of solitude of course, but! - there are a few things that niggle at me, not really hates as I don't do hate ... but ... well...
That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year).
Missing sink plugs.
Whatever that incredibly thin unidentifiable fried meat is in most pilgrim meals.
The Spanish (God bless them) way of making tea! (tepid water in a thick small cup with a disastrously weak tea bag).
Missing clothes pegs - who takes them? (I have often bought a pack of clothes pegs to 'feed' the washing line at a refugio and usually half are missing the next morning).
Yours ....... ???
Loud people in quiet places.
I try not to be judgmental about the baggage transport, but I have no problem denouncing the drones and selfie sticks. My tolerance is further tested by pilgrims who monopolise limited cooking and washing facilities in albergues.Drones, selfie sticks and luggage vans.
Please do not misunderstand me. I freely recognise that people may use any service which is legally available to them. They do not need my permission or my approval for their choices and I will not criticise any individual who decides to use the services which exist. But that doesn't mean that I personally have to pretend to like the status quo.I try not to be judgmental about the baggage transport,
I wish someone would tell me what my annoying habits are because as far as I am concerned I have none.Pilgrims who grumble about other Pilgrims' annoying habits without 'fessing up to their own.
"lomo" is "loin" and can be beef, lamb, or pork. I agree that it is best avoided. The best I can say about it is that it can add some flavor to a dish. I personally don't like to eat it....
I usually avoid lomo- I believe that's how that meat is usually described on the menu.
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All the graffiti. Make a cairn of stones, tuck a wildflower or even a note on paper into a sign or meaningful place, but for heaven's sake, where do people get off permanently defacing markers/signs/walkways/trees/what have you with spray paint or sharpies?
Agree and those that play music with ear pods!People playing music without ear pods.
I have to agree with the toilet paper, especially after Sarria, but I also dislike it when you read about all the false information from pilgrims on forums like this on wild camping and how they always say that it's illegal in Spain when it's not and how they are oblivious to the fact that many people especially the ones that can't afford paid accommodation each night do wild camp it's just that they are oblivious to it as most wild campers are a lot more considerate than the waste toilet tissue polluters and leave no trace.Hi, I love the Camino, especially where it throngs with pilgrims, I like the evening tribalness of it all and the close interaction, balanced with long periods of solitude of course, but! - there are a few things that niggle at me, not really hates as I don't do hate ... but ... well...
That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year).
Missing sink plugs.
Whatever that incredibly thin unidentifiable fried meat is in most pilgrim meals.
The Spanish (God bless them) way of making tea! (tepid water in a thick small cup with a disastrously weak tea bag).
Missing clothes pegs - who takes them? (I have often bought a pack of clothes pegs to 'feed' the washing line at a refugio and usually half are missing the next morning).
Yours ....... ???
And how does that affect you?Agree and those that play music with ear pods!
I enjoy all my bad habits.I wish someone would tell me what my annoying habits are because as far as I am concerned I have none.
I probably do the same, and just don’t know it.I enjoy all my bad habits.
Tea, or shall we say Hot Tea, is quite a rarity in many (I would say a significant majority of ) countries, despite its popularity in the UK!Just forget tea on the Camino. Or anywhere in Spain, for that matter. Of course, I have not asked for tea everywhere I've been in Spain. And I haven't even been to everywhere in Spain. I stopped asking for tea in Spain years ago after a few unpleasant experiences. The same goes for America and France. But the coffee in Spain is so nice! Even their instant coffee is drinkable, much better than ours.
"Non judgemental non drinkers are fine. I try to sit next to them." -- yes, good idea, especially when the restaurant does not give a whole bottle of wine with the menú peregrino to each diner.
Missing sink plugs -- yes, agreed. I take two of different sizes.
People using a big wooden staff: one of my niggles. Does it really help? Or are you just trying to look "authentic". It looks to me like a heavy weight to carry needlessly.
Oh yes! The graffiti!!! "Love wins" on every blessed mojón. For a start: No, it doesn't. And who gave you permission to deface every flat surface with your infantile gibberish?
Another niggle: stones on every mojón. Why? Not why is it a niggle, but why would anyone put a stone on a random mojón? Stones at Cruz de Ferro, I can understand (though I wouldn't put one there myself). Are you going to go back next year to check that your stone is still there? It won't be, if I have passed by.
They either don't hear you coming so they don't move off the track to let you pass and frequently ignore a friendly Buen Camino as presumably they can't hear the comment.And how does that affect you?
I always have to tell my husband "If they have their earbuds in, it means they don't want to talk to you right now." and he cheerfully ignores me and tries to strike up a conversation anyway!They either don't hear you coming so they don't move off the track to let you pass and frequently ignore a friendly Buen Camino as presumably they can't hear the comment.
I guess that, deep down, it is my perception that they are missing so much of the sounds of nature around them (or even the quiet) that they feel they must listen to music to get them through the day although they may be listening to something more religious or a message from home. My problem, not theirs - it doesn't spoil my day! Each to their own.
Just imagine how hazardous life would be if there were bells without bikesBikes with no bells...
As a species we managed to survive that for a few centuries without much trouble.Just imagine how hazardous life would be if there were bells without bikes
Cathedrals?Just imagine how hazardous life would be if there were bells without bikes
Pretty obvious bit less these days the old moan on "bikes" no bells, or whistles, whizzing by, no Buen Camino, to be fair they recently rescued a friend walking on her own near Granada who had fallen and was badly injured, so they have there uses.Hi, I love the Camino, especially where it throngs with pilgrims, I like the evening tribalness of it all and the close interaction, balanced with long periods of solitude of course, but! - there are a few things that niggle at me, not really hates as I don't do hate ... but ... well...
That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year).
Missing sink plugs.
Whatever that incredibly thin unidentifiable fried meat is in most pilgrim meals.
The Spanish (God bless them) way of making tea! (tepid water in a thick small cup with a disastrously weak tea bag).
Missing clothes pegs - who takes them? (I have often bought a pack of clothes pegs to 'feed' the washing line at a refugio and usually half are missing the next morning).
Yours ....... ???
Here here!! In that spirit and with a somewhat contrite heart, I confess to bag rustling in dark, crowded and otherwise quiet albergues; excessive use of hot water; and no end of singing in the shower.Pilgrims who grumble about other Pilgrims' annoying habits without 'fessing up to their own.
Venting is good for reducing blood pressure. Tea isn't really a problem if one carries a few tea bags. Anyway, lots of threads serve no good purpose, so why pick on this one? If people aren't interested it will die all by itself. Probably. Unless it gets resurrected in five years. Which happens.Other than allow people to vent, threads like this really serve no good purpose. Those of us who don't know better than to litter the trail with trash and TP, to click-clack along the Camino without rubber tips on their poles, or to deface signs and mojones won't be reading here anyway.
As far as things a like proper cup of tea, if you want all the comforts of home then why go on Camino?
I have serious doubts about that.Venting is good for reducing blood pressure.
Because it is here, now, and it fosters criticism and negativity, which is known to shorten our life spans.why pick on this one?
Other than allow people to vent, threads like this really serve no good purpose. Those of us who don't know better than to litter the trail with trash and TP, to click-clack along the Camino without rubber tips on their poles, or to deface signs and mojones won't be reading here anyway.
As far as things a like proper cup of tea, if you want all the comforts of home then why go on Camino?
Turkey, Istanbul might be a runner up to the UK as far as tea goes. It’s good and available everywhere and I mean everywhere. While visiting a friend in Istanbul we parked curbside at a storefront. This young boy came running up to the passenger car window asking if we wanted tea (cay). My friend ordered two with sugar. The boy quickly ran away only to return minutes later with his swinging tray carrying two cups of hot tea, sugar cubes and tiny spoons. We sat in the car enjoying our cup of tea, it was the best experience, obviously one I’ll never forget.Tea, or shall we say Hot Tea, is quite a rarity in many (I would say a significant majority of ) countries, despite its popularity in the UK!
Goes for regular backpacks too.Day packs covering benches needed by others, and the indignance when asked to move them. The Camino is an odd place for indifference to others.
Stay home or bring your own kettle and tea.no good tea in spain?
I was going to say that I am counting the days until the spring equinox on 20 March when there will be not need for toilet humour to keep the forum alive and to cheer us up ("That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year" - so funny) when I looked out of the window and thought, hold on, it is March already and spring is here.it is still late winter and I posted to help keep the forum alive, and I think the responses have been quite funny at times
Trecile, it does serve a purpose, it promotes human connection, community, the give and take, humour - which most humans delight in - ... it is still late winter and I posted to help keep the forum alive, and I think the responses have been quite funny at times .... and do you really think that I care about missing a good cup of tea for a few weeks? It is humour, observational humour .... and I do think that such comments as "if you want all the comforts of home then why go on Camino?" completely misses the point of the thread (and is also rather dismissive and rude).
I was going to say that I am counting the days until the spring equinox on 20 March when there will be not need for toilet humour to keep the forum alive and to cheer us up ("That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year" - so funny) when I looked out of the window and thought, hold on, it is March already and spring is here.
Indeed, says Wikipedia, meteorological spring is here - In the United States and United Kingdom, spring months are March, April, and May. This cheered me up no end.
Oddly enough Australians get more and better snow than we do! Seen Glenshee or the Cairngorms this year?(Note: Australians - this is called snow and is made in the sky out of water droplets)
Very pretty - snow in EnglandMe too re spring! Have been keeping my eye on the long range weather forecast, wondering, as we have had such a warm, wet, windy winter over here if I could actually go earlier than April 10th ... but ... opened my curtains this morning to see this! but! - Hang on! it is March now!!
(Note: Australians - this is called snow and is made in the sky out of water droplets)
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And that big yellow burny thing up in the sky is called a sun. Oh, forgot, you probably don´t see it that often.this is called snow and is made in the sky out of water droplets
Bikers who refuse to use the bells.Bikes with no bells...
Agreed. Pick up your « stuff » and leave no trace.I remind all women that the easiest thing is to carry at least one roll of biodegradable doggie poop bags with her, pick up any paper and waste, and carry it to the next garbage tin. In addition - same goes for any man whose poop schedule is irregular enough to have to occasionally use the bushes. We are all grateful to those who do!!
It isn't just ladies. There are often brown tissues.Hi, I love the Camino, especially where it throngs with pilgrims, I like the evening tribalness of it all and the close interaction, balanced with long periods of solitude of course, but! - there are a few things that niggle at me, not really hates as I don't do hate ... but ... well...
That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year).
Missing sink plugs.
Whatever that incredibly thin unidentifiable fried meat is in most pilgrim meals.
The Spanish (God bless them) way of making tea! (tepid water in a thick small cup with a disastrously weak tea bag).
Missing clothes pegs - who takes them? (I have often bought a pack of clothes pegs to 'feed' the washing line at a refugio and usually half are missing the next morning).
Yours ....... ???
Please don’t make cairns. It’s a huge problem in the States because once fool does it, the next hundred must as well. It disrupts natural hiding and breeding places for wildlife. Maybe it’s just Americans but I know we’re not unique.All the graffiti. Make a cairn of stones, tuck a wildflower or even a note on paper into a sign or meaningful place, but for heaven's sake, where do people get off permanently defacing markers/signs/walkways/trees/what have you with spray paint or sharpies?
Oh dear..Agree and those that play music with ear pods!
Or people who feel the need to verbalize EVERY single thought or question that passes through their head.Loud people in quiet places.
Communal venting serves a good purpose and is emotionally, mentally, and physically healthy. Keeping too much inside for too long . . . not good. I believe I read somewhere where Jesus on at least one occasion vented about God, His Father, because as we all know, there has never been a perfect father (or mother).Trecile, it does serve a purpose, it promotes human connection, community, the give and take, humour - which most humans delight in - ... it is still late winter and I posted to help keep the forum alive, and I think the responses have been quite funny at times .... and do you really think that I care about missing a good cup of tea for a few weeks? It is humour, observational humour .... and I do think that such comments as "if you want all the comforts of home then why go on Camino?" completely misses the point of the thread (and is also rather dismissive and rude).
Knock KnockBikers who refuse to use the bells.
Try doing that after an undercooked chicken from Mercadona’s delicatessen!!!!!Bring only charity and patience. Leave with only photographs and memories. Leave nothing of substance behind.
You DO make a good point. I would take your experience as a lesson in caution - to check and not eat something that appears to be undercooked, or unrefrigerated too long.Try doing that after an undercooked chicken from Mercadona’s delicatessen!!!!!
There’s no CompeedYou DO make a good point. I would take your experience as a lesson in caution - to check and not eat something that appears to be undercooked, or unrefrigerated too long.
I have observed over the years that, physical death aside, the WORST thing that can befall a pilgrim is a Gastrointestinal illness - of any type - in any place - and at any time.
I feel your pain!
Arriving at an albergue to find that a tour group with monster suitcases has taken over. And then getting condescending comments from them about carrying my own pack. Yes. This has happened to me!Hi, I love the Camino, especially where it throngs with pilgrims, I like the evening tribalness of it all and the close interaction, balanced with long periods of solitude of course, but! - there are a few things that niggle at me, not really hates as I don't do hate ... but ... well...
That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year).
Missing sink plugs.
Whatever that incredibly thin unidentifiable fried meat is in most pilgrim meals.
The Spanish (God bless them) way of making tea! (tepid water in a thick small cup with a disastrously weak tea bag).
Missing clothes pegs - who takes them? (I have often bought a pack of clothes pegs to 'feed' the washing line at a refugio and usually half are missing the next morning).
Yours ....... ???
Yep, there isn’t a hill I haven’t cursed.Hills...
OK, just a couple peeves and likes:Hi, I love the Camino, especially where it throngs with pilgrims, I like the evening tribalness of it all and the close interaction, balanced with long periods of solitude of course, but! - there are a few things that niggle at me, not really hates as I don't do hate ... but ... well...
That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year).
Missing sink plugs.
Whatever that incredibly thin unidentifiable fried meat is in most pilgrim meals.
The Spanish (God bless them) way of making tea! (tepid water in a thick small cup with a disastrously weak tea bag).
Missing clothes pegs - who takes them? (I have often bought a pack of clothes pegs to 'feed' the washing line at a refugio and usually half are missing the next morning).
Yours ....... ???
Agree with comments about regular tea. However, infusions of manzanilla (Chamomile) with honey and/or lemon are generally wonderful! Also have had some truly wonderful homemade infusions of fruit pectins on those cold rainy days while doing a camino in late autumn. I remember being on the Sanabres route on a lonely stretch during a severe torrential type rain storm when I spotted a cafe up ahead. Walked in and was welcomed to a table by a fireplace and most welcomed to seat myself and warm up a bit. I rambled off a request for lunch-- thought caldo de gallego would be good, ditto some chamomile. The waiter said "uh-huh" to all of my requests, and then said he didn't have any of those things, but not to worry, he would bring me something that I would like. He came back with a tureen of a very good soup-- who knows what it was called but it was just what I needed that day. Some warm bread! He brought out a dish of homemade sachets of dried fruits-- wonderful tasting-- along with honey. It was just what I needed that day!Spot on about the tea - almost worth taking your own mug!
Ah, so, it was you was it? And all these years I thought it was meHere here!! In that spirit and with a somewhat contrite heart, I confess to bag rustling in dark, crowded and otherwise quiet albergues; excessive use of hot water; and no end of singing in the shower.
It isn't just ladies. There are often brown tissues.
It isn't just ladies. There are often brown tissues.
Ah, but I wrote "pure white tissues" which are urine wiping, so female. (I don't even want to think about the brown ones!!!).
Men wearing next to nothing in albergues. Perhaps wear shorts even if you must go shirtless…Hi, I love the Camino, especially where it throngs with pilgrims, I like the evening tribalness of it all and the close interaction, balanced with long periods of solitude of course, but! - there are a few things that niggle at me, not really hates as I don't do hate ... but ... well...
That trail of pure white toilet tissues left by female pilgrims all the way along by clumps of trees and bushes (unless it is just one poor woman with a serious bladder problem who goes Camino every year).
Missing sink plugs.
Whatever that incredibly thin unidentifiable fried meat is in most pilgrim meals.
The Spanish (God bless them) way of making tea! (tepid water in a thick small cup with a disastrously weak tea bag).
Missing clothes pegs - who takes them? (I have often bought a pack of clothes pegs to 'feed' the washing line at a refugio and usually half are missing the next morning).
Yours ....... ???
Who would have chastised you?I gotta say. If I would have started a thread like this I would have been chastised, flogged and thrown to the wolves. Oh and called entitled. Mhmmm.That being said. In my personal experience trying to get away from a loud group on the trail. You know the ones with 5 or 6, maybe more pilgrims who are behind you playing music, laughing, talking loudly. As they approach, I stop for a sip from my bottle to let them pass. I wait until they are pretty far ahead. Then I’ll start walking only to catch and pass them while they decide to stop and take off jackets, etc. The seesaw begins.
I think these threads serve a great purpose! They make me laugh and I enjoy the fun of it and the memories.Other than allow people to vent, threads like this really serve no good purpose. Those of us who don't know better than to litter the trail with trash and TP, to click-clack along the Camino without rubber tips on their poles, or to deface signs and mojones won't be reading here anyway.
As far as things a like proper cup of tea, if you want all the comforts of home then why go on Camino?
I am not sure how welcoming they are for new pilgrims who might be reading and looking for kind advice though.I think these threads serve a great purpose! They make me laugh and I enjoy the fun of it and the memories.
Drones, selfie sticks and luggage vans.
We had good tea in Villamayor de Monjardín. Maybe because the albergue was run by Dutchies?no good tea in spain?
You don't like stone cairns? Well, next time you get to Cruz de Ferro you are going to be heartily disappointed with people!! Although I have heard it has been recently "landscaped" so the cairn may be no moreDon't with the stones.
Leave no trace.
What an apt description of why I find threads like this so annoying.Or people who feel the need to verbalize EVERY single thought or question that passes through their head.
I was walking with a man from the UK and I said these hills are relentless there everywhere. We both laughed and continued are climb.Yep, there isn’t a hill I haven’t cursed.
Privados normally have more than one person running the place, and they generally work shifts. Public pilgrim albergues, whether fixed charge or donativo, municipal or parochial, are run either by very poorly paid council workers or, more often, volunteers who basically work from when they get up to when they go to bed. For nothing. Between finishing the cleaning and opening up is the only rest and respite they get. Please do not begrudge them this.Yes, the place has to be cleaned, but privados do that too.
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